Clicky

betalogue
Unlike the default global Spotlight search, the default global HoudahSpot search fails to return results which match the keywords in their ID3 tags.

For example, if I look for "Emmit" with Spotlight, my search results include an MP3 file whose "author" (artist) is "Emmitt Rhodes".

The same file does not show up in HoudahSpot when searching for "Emmit". I have to specifically customize the search criteria to include the "Author" field.

I don't think this is right. I think that the default HS search should match the results of the default Spotlight search exactly. It's up to the user to further customize his searches after that, but the default one should definitely also search for the keywords in the ID3 tags of MP3/MP4 files.

Do you agree?

Pierre
Pierre Igot
LATEXT - Literature, Music & Visuals @ http://www.latext.com
BETALOGUE - Weblog at http://www.betalogue.com
0 0
houdah
Hi!

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

I do not agree, but I am open to hear the input fron other customers.

Best,
Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.
Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
0 0
Jono
I don't see the problem. If it's something you search for often then just edit your default search to always search for Author (or any other attributes that you need to search for often). The default HoudahSpot search wasn't quite right for me. So I altered it to suit me, & now use my own version for a default search.

That's the good thing about HoudahSpot. You can tailor it to your own needs.
0 0
betalogue
The problem is that this forces me to go through the whole list of query attributes and try to figure out which ones correspond to the ID3 tags that I want HS to include in the default search.

I don't know if you've noticed, but these query attributes are not labelled using the same terminology as in iTunes. Artists, for example, are "authors."

Besides, even if I manage to add these attributes to my default template, when I start a search with BlitzSearch, HS only searches for the keywords in the three default fields (name, text content, and Spotlight comments), which it *adds* to the default template, instead of filling out the existing attributes in the template.

I don't see how this helps me in any way. This appears to indicate that, whenever I want to search for keywords and include my other attributes, I have to fill out the attributes manually, one by one. Hardly convenient compared to Spotlight.

Or am I missing something?
Pierre Igot
LATEXT - Literature, Music & Visuals @ http://www.latext.com
BETALOGUE - Weblog at http://www.betalogue.com
0 0
houdah
Hi!

The easiest way to figure out the actual name of an attribute is by looking at the Inspector window for an existing file.

The point of HoudahSpot is that you get to take charge of your search. Rather than making a very broad search, HoudahSpot focusses on narrowing down on as little but as relevant results as possible.

Other applications may map other data to the "Authors" attribute. E.g. I believe Mail.app uses "Authors" for the sender of the mail. Suddenly your search will match both music and emails.

I suggest you use iTunes for managing and thus also for quickly searching for music. That's the most appropriate application for the task.

For more detailed music searches, set up a HoudahSpot template where you need only fill in the "Authors" criterion to get started. Just skip on BlitzSearch.

Best,
Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.
Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
0 0
betalogue
Pierre,

You are making assumptions regarding how I want to conduct my searches. Yes, HS helps me narrow things down. But what if I want a wide-ranging search to begin with? If it gives me too many results and I want to narrow things down, I will. But to begin with I'd like a search that is as wide-ranging as possible. I don't want to have to decide in advance where the keywords I am looking for might be. Sometimes I want to search for an artist's name anywhere on my machine, in any type of document. I want to see if he's mentioned in a PDF file anywhere, or if he appears as the author or composer of a piece of music that I have somewhere on my hard drives, etc.

You are also assuming that all my music files are already part of my iTunes library, when in fact they are not. I often want to search for a file that I might have already downloaded, but not yet added to my iTunes library. In that case I cannot use iTunes to search for it.

It seems to me that a user-friendly tool should try to accommodate a variety of approaches and not force the user to adopt a specific approach, based on a number of questionable assumptions, from the get-go.

That's the beauty of user-friendly, user-centric computing. The computer is a tool that I can use in a variety of ways. As soon as one particular tool forces me to use a specific approach, it becomes less useful to me. I bought HS because it looked promising to me as a flexible Spotlight replacement, but I am starting to wonder whether I'll be able to use it the way *I* would like to be able to use it.

Pierre
Pierre Igot
LATEXT - Literature, Music & Visuals @ http://www.latext.com
BETALOGUE - Weblog at http://www.betalogue.com
0 0
houdah
Hi!

I am very open for suggestions. That's why I encourage other users to chime in with their opinion.

I have to take great care not to overload HoudahSpot with too many options. Adding a feature is just about as dangerous as removing one.

Best,
Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.
Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
0 0
betalogue
Understood. But it seems to me that one of the best reasons for offering templates is to provide users with the ability to enter the same keyword in more than one field (search attribute) at the same time.

BlitzSearch does this, but only for the three attributes that it supports. Beyond that, the user has to enter the data manually. There has to be a way—hopefully without adding too much complexity—to automate search query input so that the user does not have to type the same keyword several times in several different fields just to get an all-encompassing search.

That is one of the most fundamental strengths of Spotlight-based searches: with a simple query, they can search for a keyword in all kinds of different places (like Google does for the WWW). They don't make any assumptions about where the user might want to search for the keywords. Fine-tuning can come later if needed.

I wish that HS would offer a similar, all-encompassing, simple search, accessible through the BlitzSearch menu. And actually I think it would simplify the HS interface. Because right now when you bring up the BlitzSearch menu and type a keyword and launch a search with a specific template specified as the option, BS *adds* its own search criteria to the criteria of the template, which remain unused. It makes for a rather confusing list of search criteria, especially if the template used happens to contain the same attributes as the ones specified by the BS search.

I understand that this approach is designed so that the user can use the template to **add** to the search criteria defined by BS, but this approach assumes that all the user might want to do with the additional criteria of the template is *refine* the search (i.e. make it more restrictive)—when in fact I often need to *expand* the search because of a lack of results.

The approach used by HS is not particularly helpful when the user needs to expand his search. Which is why I believe there should be an option to have a wider search to begin with. With the widest possible search to begin with, the user will only need to refine his search (not expand it) and therefore the HS approach will work better.

But in the current situation, the default BS search is not wide enough, and the HS interface does not make it easy to expand the search when it does not return enough results.
Pierre Igot
LATEXT - Literature, Music & Visuals @ http://www.latext.com
BETALOGUE - Weblog at http://www.betalogue.com
0 0
Jono
Yea, I do agree that it would be good if you could search 1 search field & it would search everything like Spotlight. It would be simpler & would 'catch everything' that contained your search term. It wouldn't have to be the default search (unless you set it this way & make it your default search). You could then have the option of searching everything in 1 search field (like most people are used to in Spotlight), or searching filename &/or text content &/or Spotlight comments (like it does now), adding or removing things you do or don't want to search. That would be very useful.

And it also annoys me that when doing a BlitzSearch it adds more search parameters (name, text content & spotlight comments) to your pre configured template. It means if you create a template to search Spotlight comments only (or Authors in betalogue's case) & search this template from BlitzSearch your criteria is ignored.

One other thing that still hampers me is when I have a lot of search parameters in the 'What' part of the search you only see a small part of it & have to scroll a lot. I think it would be very useful if you had those small triangles on the 'ALL of the following are true:', 'NONE of the following are true:' etc. parts so you could expand & collapse them when needed.

Anyway please don't take all this as criticism. The improvements made recently are fantastic & I'm using HoudahSpot more that ever because of them! But now I'm using it all the time I think it just highlights some things that could be improved
0 0
houdah
Hi!

Feedback is always welcome. Many of the improvements in HoudahSpot took origin in user comments.

Best,
Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
0 0
Jono
Thanks Pierre
0 0
betalogue
Another, related problem is what happens when you initiate a search for a keyword or keywords with BlitzSearch, and then you want to **modify** that search because the keywords are not quite appropriate.

Right now, once the window with the BlitzSearch query is opened in HS, the only way to modify the search is to repeat the same modification three times in three different fields (name, text content, and spotlight comment).

There should be a way to apply the same modification to all three fields at once. Again, this is something that Spotlight lets you do: When you open the "Show All" window for a global Spotlight search, the keyword(s) appear in the "Search for" field and you can modify them there. The modification applies automatically (behind the scenes) to all the attributes that the global Spotlight search uses.
Pierre Igot
LATEXT - Literature, Music & Visuals @ http://www.latext.com
BETALOGUE - Weblog at http://www.betalogue.com
0 0
Jono
Yea, it is easier to alter your search term in 1 field rather than 3.
0 0