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Phipsi
Hi Pierre,

I saw with El Capitan there are third-party extensions for Apple Photos possible.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205245

At the moment I can't find HoudahGeo inside the selective menu.
Will HoudahGeo work with Apple Photos in future also?

Best regards, Philipp
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houdah
Hi Philipp,

The extension mechanism in Apple Photos is not suited for the tasks HoudahGeo needs to perform.

Photo extensions were designed photo retouching in mind. They work on single photos. For geotagging it would be impractical to have to edit photos one by one.

Best,

Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

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Phipsi
You are right. One by one is rarly useful. If I understand correct the Photos database has no API (or similar) like old Aperture. So it is not possible for HoudahGeo to "inform" the database. Correct?
So the best workaround (for the moment => hopefully Apple will change it) is to load the pictures from the cam to any folder, add geotags to pictures and at the end import them to Photos. Correct?
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houdah
Yes, that is currently the best workflow.

I recommended setting Image Capture to open when you connect your camera or card reader.
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nsfw
What can be done if you already have 10's of thousands of photos in photos?
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houdah
Hi!

You could still use HoudahGeo to tag master / original files within the Photos library. Your geotags will be stored safely with the origanal image files. Photos will however not be able to "see" the location information. You could hope - or bug Apple - that a future version of Photos will add a "Reload metadata from file" option. This existed in Aperture.

You could still use HoudahGeo to tag master / original files and create copies. Then you can import these copies into Photos. This will, of course, create duplicated. You could then trash the first batch of images, but you would lose and edits made in Photos.

It is all hardly ideal. Yet it appears it is the best that can currently be done with Photos.

Best,

Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
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LongTagger
Pierre, thank you so much for explaining the workings and limitations of the OS X Photos.app regarding geotagging.  

Still trying to find a decent way to add missing geotag info to the pix in my OS X Photos library which lack it.  

Question:  Is there a way to use AppleScript or Automator or something like that to automate the process?  

I'm imagining a script that performs the following actions:
  1. Export selected photo(s) from OS X Photos --> HoudaGeo
  2. Add geolocation data to the EXIF
  3. Re-import said photos from HoudaGeo --> Photos.app
  4. Delete original so no duplicates are generated.

Thanks,
David L.
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houdah
Hi David,

Export and import from Apple Photos can be triggered from Apple Script. The export command has an option to use original images.

It should be possible to write a script that exports the originals for the current selection. Upon successful export, the script could also delete the media items from Photos. The script could then open the exported files in HoudahGeo.

Geocoding in HoudahGeo and export from HoudahGeo will require manual interaction. These operations are not scriptable.

A second script could be used to import the tagged files into Photos. Dragging the files from Finder into Photos probably is just as easy.


The workflow is less than ideal. The script for exporting would save a few clicks and make sure you don’t forget to use the orginal images.


At this point I’d wait till June to see what upgrades Apple announces for Photos in the next release of OS X. From there you can see if these will allow for a better workflow and if you want to wait till fall or if you’d rather finish geotagging now using a half-automated workflow.


Best,

Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

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LongTagger
Pierre, based on what you wrote in the thread


your advice was spot-on:

At this point I’d wait till June to see what upgrades Apple announces for Photos in the next release of OS X. From there you can see if these will allow for a better workflow and if you want to wait till fall or if you’d rather finish geotagging now using a half-automated workflow.

Thanks for your advice, and I'll be looking forward to Photos 2.0 in macOS Sierra to use with HoudahGeo.
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houdah
Hi!

There is now a beta of HoudahGeo 5.1 for users of macOS 10.12 Sierra. This adds the ability to notify the new Apple Photos 2.0 of updates to geotags.

Best,

Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
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houdah
Hi!

There is a new beta of HoudahGeo 5.1. (The above link has also been updated)

HoudahGeo 5.1 adds the ability to notify Apple Photos 2.0 when running on macOS 10.12 Sierra.

Best,

Pierre Bernard
Houdah Software s.à r.l.

 
Houdah Software s. à r. l.
https://www.houdah.com

HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding
HoudahSpot: Advanced file search utility
Tembo: Easy and effective file search
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